Attended by Martin Blick (convenor), Brian Deegan, Julian Howes of West One. and Jean Dollimore (CCC). Sarah Turnbull of TfL provided administrative support on the day.
Horses cross gyratory
Brian, Martin, Sarah and Julian
View north to works outside school
Whole section: a 20 mph limit is suggested by Camden (there already is some traffic calming). Road surfacing is very poor in parts.
Adelaide Road – Queens Grove: concern at speed of vehicles entering from the gyratory; suggestions about signage on approach. ST said that the entrance may be narrowed as result of CSH11 work.
There is a continuous northbound advisory cycle lane, which seems effective apart from a small number of parking spaces opposite the new school (these should be removed or possibly added on the other side of the road). Southbound is clear on leaving the gyratory but then has car parking bays followed by a short section of cycle lane, which starts again on the approach to Elsworthy Terrace.
Elsworthy Terrace/Queens Road junction. As discussed with Simi Shah at an earlier site meeting, it was agreed that this junction should be controlled by signals. It already has a raised table. (Previous proposals had been made in Link 26 CRISP and local route CRISP and failed a consultation in 2008). The southbound approach will need two vehicle lanes and an ASL, therefore there is no room for a feeder lane. We concluded that there was no point in a southbound cycle lane north of Elsworthy Terrace. The nearby pedestrian crossing (north) will be incorporated into the signals as well as crossings over the two side roads.
Queens Grove
Acacia Road
Allitsen Road-St Edmunds Terrace
Elsworthy Terrace/Queens Road – Acacia Road
There are some speed tables and a pedestrian crossing near Norfolk Road, but no scope for improving the latter because of trees and cross overs. Cycle lanes on both sides of the road. Some poor surfacing. Right turn issues at Acacia Road – junction already raised, BD suggested change of surface colour.
Acacia Road – Allitsen/St Edmunds Terrace
Cycle lanes on both sides of the road. Some poor surfacing. Some calming – raised zebra on way and near Allitsen Road. The junction is level the zebra to north provides some calming.
Allitsen/St Edmunds Terrace – Prince Albert Road
Cycle lanes on both sides of the road. Some poor surfacing. Full size ASL but rather worn and poorly used by motor vehicles.
Junction with Prince Albert Road
ASL on south side very narrow – but there’s not much room anyway. Need ASLs on both Prince Albert Road approaches.
Discussion at CCC meeting 15 August
People suggested that I should argue that through traffic should be kept out. We did discuss that point on the CRIM so I can mention it when the notes are circulated.
I am waiting for the official notes, JD 15 Aug 2011.
